Been a few days since I've updated, been working on this final concept  during it. i'm still not happy with the (normal) hand, it still doesn't look quite right to me after spending ages trying to fix it( i suppose it's batter than before but I'm still not completely satisfied). anyway until i can figure out that detail I'm considering this done for now.

now I'm going to model him and work on other aspects and character's of the project now he's been finalized.

 

i also tried shortening his legs a little, so he's roughly 8 heads in this one whilst i think he nears 8.5 heads in the other. i did this to make him a closer to the "idealistic(loomis)" proportions and make it easier to model with the proportions being easier to manage at exact head heights.